{"id":4086,"date":"2022-05-03T04:34:33","date_gmt":"2022-05-03T04:34:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/culture\/politics\/foreign-politics\/the-torn-history-and-the-reverse-logic-of-the-orsini-lavrov-duo\/"},"modified":"2022-05-03T04:34:33","modified_gmt":"2022-05-03T04:34:33","slug":"the-torn-history-and-the-reverse-logic-of-the-orsini-lavrov-duo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/technology\/the-torn-history-and-the-reverse-logic-of-the-orsini-lavrov-duo\/","title":{"rendered":"The torn history and the reverse logic of the Orsini-Lavrov duo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Commenting on the war in Ukraine in their own way, Vladimir Putin&#8217;s proxies have opened up new scenarios to better understand who Adolf Hitler really was, the man who in just 12 years (from 1933 to 1945) managed to destroy Europe and, en passant, to eliminate six million Jews in the extermination camps.<\/p>\n<p>Alessandro Orsini, in one of the latest television raids (it seems that his presence is a guarantee for the share of talk shows), explained to us that the F\u00fchrer had no intention of causing the Second World War.  All he had to do was invade Poland.  Indeed, the Nazi leader &#8220;did not expect&#8221; the reaction of France and England (did he think he was still in Monaco?).  But there is more.  According to Putin&#8217;s &#8220;translator of translators&#8221; &#8220;contrary to what many think, the Second World War did not break out because Hitler at some point, deliberately, decided to attack England, France, Poland and Russia&#8221;.  According to Orsini, the triggering cause must be sought in a system of alliances as a result of which, if a member state is attacked, the others are committed to defending it, causing a sort of domino effect which, in 1939, took the same by surprise. Hitler.<\/p><div id=\"forum-2658391747\" class=\"forum-content-2 forum-entity-placement\">\t\t<div class=\"ad-wrapper\" style=\"width:100%;min-height:250px;text-align:center\">\r\n\t\t\t<!-- In Article Blog -->\r\n\t\t\t<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n\t\t\t\t style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3476569516614521\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-slot=\"9829044906\"><\/ins>\r\n\t\t\t<script>\r\n\t\t\t\t (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n\t\t\t<\/script>\r\n\t\t<\/div><\/div>\n<p>This is why, now, belonging to NATO is a risk that increases with the entry of new countries, since &#8211; we understand &#8211; the possibilities that Putin decides to invade some are also growing, putting us in front of the dilemma of respecting the commitments undertaken with the allies or run away by playing the pipe for peace.  Basically, it is better to be alone and in silence, in the hope that the crocodile will not notice us.  Meanwhile, children can have a happy and peaceful life, learning to grow up without worrying about others.<\/p>\n<p>Considering the arguments of the &#8220;philoputinians without their knowledge&#8221; (since they did not realize that they are) we must expect an upcoming re-evaluation of Adolf Hitler, for the same reasons that lead to &#8220;understanding&#8221; the Russian invasion of Ukraine.  After all, Germany had been humiliated by the powers that had won the Great War.  From the Versailles treaties, new states, such as Poland and Czechoslovakia, had sprung up, through compass turns on the geographical maps, which had millions of Germans within their borders, in the condition of ethnic minorities.<\/p><div id=\"forum-3589254205\" class=\"forum-content forum-entity-placement\">\t\t<div class=\"ad-wrapper\" style=\"width:100%;min-height:250px;text-align:center\">\r\n\t\t\t<!-- In Article Blog -->\r\n\t\t\t<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n\t\t\t\t style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3476569516614521\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-slot=\"9829044906\"><\/ins>\r\n\t\t\t<script>\r\n\t\t\t\t (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n\t\t\t<\/script>\r\n\t\t<\/div><\/div>\n<p>Isn&#8217;t there a certain assonance with Putin&#8217;s claims to return to Mother Russia the citizens dispersed in what was the Soviet Empire and now scattered in states, often without history behind them, resulting from the defeat of the USSR in the Cold War?  Don&#8217;t the one-sided pacifists say, every three words, that Russia cannot be defeated by the conflict in Ukraine (for which it is solely responsible) because a great nation and its leader cannot be humiliated?<\/p>\n<p>I expect Orsini to be close to showing off another sensational narrative.  According to the categories with which the professor interprets the responsibilities of the war in Ukraine, the judgments on those that led to the Second World War must also be changed.  Why did Churchill not want to negotiate with Hitler through an Italian mediation?  Why did Stalin not offer Hitler unconditional surrender at the time of Operation Barbarossa, conducted with an unprecedented commitment of German forces along a three thousand km front?  Because President Roosevelt approved by the US Congress, in March 1941, a law (the same one that Joe Biden works on) that allowed his administration to arm England, free France, nationalist China and, from June onwards , the USSR (which without American aid would not have been able to reverse the fate of the war)?  Putin will not be Hitler, but even in the paranoia there can be no logic.<\/p><div id=\"forum-1630360023\" class=\"forum-content-3 forum-entity-placement\">\t\t<div class=\"ad-wrapper\" style=\"width:100%;min-height:250px;text-align:center\">\r\n\t\t\t<!-- In Article Blog -->\r\n\t\t\t<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n\t\t\t\t style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3476569516614521\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-slot=\"9829044906\"><\/ins>\r\n\t\t\t<script>\r\n\t\t\t\t (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n\t\t\t<\/script>\r\n\t\t<\/div><\/div>\n<p>We had not yet recovered from Orsini&#8217;s outcry, when Minister Sergei Lavrov stunned us, claiming from our television screens (carelessly placed at his disposal) that Hitler was Jewish and precisely because of this belonging he wanted to eradicate the Judaism from Europe, because &#8211; according to Lavrov &#8211; Jews are the most ferocious anti-Semites.  Then, if you think about it, even in this absurd statement there is a logic: according to Russian propaganda, aren&#8217;t the Ukrainians bombing themselves and organizing sets of corpses, to put the Kremlin-sent Liberation Army in a bad light?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Commenting on the war in Ukraine in their own way, Vladimir Putin&#8217;s proxies have opened up new scenarios to better understand who Adolf Hitler really was, the man who in just 12 years (from 1933 to 1945) managed to destroy Europe and, en passant, to eliminate six million Jews in the extermination camps. 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