{"id":48282,"date":"2023-10-08T07:17:41","date_gmt":"2023-10-08T07:17:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/technology\/smartphones\/smartphone-news\/flashback-samsungs-galaxy-s-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved-the-s-branding\/"},"modified":"2023-10-08T07:17:41","modified_gmt":"2023-10-08T07:17:41","slug":"flashback-samsungs-galaxy-s-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved-the-s-branding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/technology\/smartphones\/smartphone-news\/flashback-samsungs-galaxy-s-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved-the-s-branding\/","title":{"rendered":"Flashback: Samsung&#8217;s Galaxy S minis were small but hardly deserved the S branding"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"review-body\">\n<p>Mini phones are on our minds again: when are they not?  \u2013 but the most recent memory to emerge is just another confirmation that the market doesn&#8217;t actually want such devices.<\/p>\n<p>Specifically, we want to talk about the Samsung Galaxy S III mini and its peers.  The first one came out in October 2012, about six months after the big S III.  We find it a little strange that this \u201cmini\u201d phone has the same display as the original Galaxy S, which was just over two years old at the time.  Both had a 4.0-inch Super AMOLED panel with 480 x 800 px (15:9) resolution.  This was 30% smaller (in terms of surface area) than the 4.8-inch 16:9 panel of the big S III, so it was truly a \u201cmini\u201d.<\/p><div id=\"forum-175144028\" class=\"forum-content-2 forum-entity-placement\">\t\t<div class=\"ad-wrapper\" style=\"width:100%;min-height:250px;text-align:center\">\r\n\t\t\t<!-- In Article Blog -->\r\n\t\t\t<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n\t\t\t\t style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3476569516614521\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-slot=\"9829044906\"><\/ins>\r\n\t\t\t<script>\r\n\t\t\t\t (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n\t\t\t<\/script>\r\n\t\t<\/div><\/div>\n<p class=\"image-row clearfix\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" height=\"184\" alt=\"Samsung I8190Galaxy S III mini\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" height=\"184\" alt=\"Samsung I9300Galaxy S III\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749460_94_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\"><br \/>\n<br \/><span><strong>Samsung I8190 Galaxy S III mini \u2022 Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The meaning of \u201cmini\u201d will continue to change, and quite rapidly.  And it was also deceptive.  Yes, the minis were smaller, but a more noticeable difference between them and the flagships they were named after was the hardware specs.  It would have been more accurate to call this phone the \u201cmid-range Galaxy S III\u201d.<\/p><div id=\"forum-3376521556\" class=\"forum-content forum-entity-placement\">\t\t<div class=\"ad-wrapper\" style=\"width:100%;min-height:250px;text-align:center\">\r\n\t\t\t<!-- In Article Blog -->\r\n\t\t\t<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n\t\t\t\t style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3476569516614521\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-slot=\"9829044906\"><\/ins>\r\n\t\t\t<script>\r\n\t\t\t\t (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n\t\t\t<\/script>\r\n\t\t<\/div><\/div>\n<p>The Galaxy S III mini bore the name of a flagship, but was itself far from a flagship: it had a dual-core Cortex-A9 CPU (1.0GHz) and a Mali-400 GPU, this NovaThor chipset U8420 was weaker than the Exynos 4210 Double in the Galaxy S II from the year before.  There was no comparison with the full-on flagship&#8217;s quad-core CPU.  The NovaThor was paired with 1GB of RAM (like the big S III, surprisingly) and 8GB of storage, plus a microSD slot.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, the WVGA display had a low pixel density, the main camera was an unremarkable 5 MP camera with 720p video capture (compared to the S III&#8217;s 8 MP 1080p), the 0.3 MP selfie camera was even more basic ( compared to the 1.9 MP module for the S III).<\/p><div id=\"forum-1963693812\" class=\"forum-content-3 forum-entity-placement\">\t\t<div class=\"ad-wrapper\" style=\"width:100%;min-height:250px;text-align:center\">\r\n\t\t\t<!-- In Article Blog -->\r\n\t\t\t<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n\t\t\t\t style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-format=\"fluid\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3476569516614521\"\r\n\t\t\t\t data-ad-slot=\"9829044906\"><\/ins>\r\n\t\t\t<script>\r\n\t\t\t\t (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n\t\t\t<\/script>\r\n\t\t<\/div><\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"inline-image\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1041\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749460_550_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\" alt=\"Flashback: Samsung's Galaxy S minis were small but hardly deserved the S branding\"><\/p>\n<p>This wasn&#8217;t a stripped down Galaxy S III, it was a mid-range style to look like the more expensive phone.  The Galaxy S Advance was essentially the same phone, except significantly cheaper.  If you could get over its outdated appearance (based on the S II), you could save a lot of money.  The Galaxy S III mini was expensive for what it was, so it couldn&#8217;t keep up with the sales of the real Galaxy S III.<\/p>\n<p>This didn&#8217;t discourage Samsung, which tried again the following year with the Galaxy S4 mini.  This had a 4.3\u201d 16:9 display (540 x 960px), comparable to the Galaxy S II&#8217;s 4.3\u201d 15:9 display (480 x 800px).  Crucially, it was 26% smaller than the current Galaxy S4.  However, the pixel density was nowhere near the S4&#8217;s 1080p display (256ppi versus 441ppi).<\/p>\n<p class=\"image-row clearfix\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" height=\"184\" alt=\"Samsung I9190Galaxy S4 mini\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749460_794_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" height=\"184\" alt=\"Samsung I9500Galaxy S4\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749460_383_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\"><br \/>\n<br \/><span><strong>Samsung I9190Galaxy S4mini \u2022 Samsung I9500Galaxy S4<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The S4 mini was relatively powerful: the Snapdragon 400 with its dual-core CPU Krait 300 and Adreno 305 could not compete with the Exynos 4310 (octa-core CPU with A15+A7 cores and PowerVR SGX544MP3), but it was still a snappy chipset.  It comes with 1.5GB of RAM (half a gig less than the S4) and 8GB of storage, again with a microSD expansion (those were the days).<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"inline-image\" width=\"1200\" height=\"586\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749461_628_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\" alt=\"Flashback: Samsung's Galaxy S minis were small but hardly deserved the S branding\"><\/p>\n<p>The camera also saw a significant upgrade with an 8MP sensor \u2013 not quite up to the S4&#8217;s 13MP standard, but at least it matched it with 1080p video recording at 30fps.  And the 1.9MP selfie camera was comparable too.<\/p>\n<p>Overall, the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini was a much better phone than the S III mini.  Still far from a true flagship, but something you wouldn&#8217;t mind buying.  However, it was still quite expensive at \u20ac380 (a real S4 could be found for around \u20ac100 more with a little effort).<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"inline-image\" width=\"1200\" height=\"589\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749461_703_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\" alt=\"Flashback: Samsung's Galaxy S minis were small but hardly deserved the S branding\"><\/p>\n<p>Another year, another mini: the Samsung Galaxy S5 mini, to be precise.  This was even larger with a 4.5&#8243; display, this time a 720p panel which finally put it into Retina display territory. The real Galaxy S5 only grew slightly larger than the S4 and had a 5.5&#8243; 1080p display. 1 inch, so the S5&#8217;s mini display was only 22% smaller.<\/p>\n<p class=\"image-row clearfix\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" height=\"184\" alt=\"Samsung Galaxy S5 mini\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749461_929_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" height=\"184\" alt=\"Samsung Galaxy S5\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749461_220_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\"><br \/>\n<br \/><span><strong>Samsung Galaxy S5 mini \u2022 Samsung Galaxy S5<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The S5&#8217;s defining feature was the IP67 rating for dust and water resistance, a first for the flagship line (not counting the Galaxy S4 Active, which is another story) and something that would become the norm in the future.  To the S5 mini&#8217;s credit, it too had an IP67 rating.<\/p>\n<p>That said, Samsung really let the performance slide: The Snapdragon 400 wasn&#8217;t great, but at least the Krait cores offered solid single-core performance.  The Galaxy S5 mini had a quad Cortex-A7 CPU and a Mali-400MP4 GPU, which was not competitive.  Additionally, the camera has received virtually no upgrades compared to the S4 mini, while the Galaxy S5 has moved up to 4K video.<\/p>\n<p class=\"image-row clearfix\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Samsung Galaxy S5 mini\" width=\"400\" height=\"485\" src=\"https:\/\/forum.sbenny.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/1696749461_769_Flashback-Samsungs-Galaxy-S-minis-were-small-but-hardly-deserved.jpg\"><br \/>\n<br \/><span><strong>Samsung Galaxy S5 mini<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The Galaxy S4 mini showed promise, but the S5 mini was very similar to the S III mini: A+ in looks, C- in features.  And the price was even higher than it should have been.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, this is where the story ends.  There were some rumors about a Galaxy S6 mini with a 4.6&#8243;\/4.7&#8243; display and a Snapdragon 808 chipset, but no such phone was ever released (in fact, Samsung dodged the Snapdragon 808 and 810 altogether, but this is another story too).<\/p>\n<p>We don&#8217;t have specific numbers on how many Galaxy S minis Samsung managed to sell.  A 2013 report described sales of the S4 mini as &#8220;lackluster&#8221; without going into further detail.  After all, if the mini experiment had been successful, Samsung would have produced more of them \u2013 and still makes them mini today.<\/p>\n<p> But the Galaxy S23 is as small as Samsung is willing to make it.  In fact, the S23 is Samsung&#8217;s smallest smartphone, period \u2013 even the entry level A0 and M0 devices are larger.  To be honest, few modern smartphones are as small as the S23.  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